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Lili Deck - 02

This is my second deck for Lili. It is 3rd card buffing punch deck. This deck isn't as popular in the 1100's as it is in the 1200's (I imagine because it is so good that those who use this deck rise past the 1200, lol). It is very strong (damage wise), fast, and Monte Carlo Snap (imo the best healing card since the Heihachi Update) is all the healing you need.

The Deck

  • 3x Broken Heart: 14 Damage, Punch, After the attack: HP ≤ Opp HP: +2 cards & Opp +1 card
  • 3x Peacock Waltz: 18 Damage, Punch, Before the attack: Only Punch: 3rd card +16 Hit
  • 2x Rompez Fleuret: 20 Damage, Punch, After the attack: Opp cards ≥ 3: Card +25 Hit
  • 2x Direct Persuasion: 22 Damage, Punch, After the attack: Cards ≤ Opp cards & Opp cards ≥ 3: +1 card
  • 3x Monte Carlo Snap: 16 Damage, Punch, After the attack: Block missed: Card discarded & +27 HP
  • 1x Slashing Vine: 14 Damage, Punch, Before the attack: Opp cards ≥ 3: Cards +8 Hit
  • 1x Elysee Le Bras Allonge: 20 Damage, Punch, After the attack: Strike: Both -5 cards & Both +4 cards
  • Power Card: Lili - I: 175 HP First turn: Both +3 Card
I like the SR Power card more but the 175 HP Power card sends the opponent's cards instantly to 3 where this deck is strongest. Also, it's cheaper =]. If you cannot afford the SR Card, feel free to opt for a 3rd Direct Persuasion. Alternatively, 1x Broken Heart and 1x Monte Carlo Snap can be substituted for Allonger Le Bras (40 Damage, Punch, After the attack: Opp cards = 0: Opp +1 card) for a more aggressive play style.

Strategy

This deck is very versatile. It can generate cards extremely fast whether focusing or blocking. Broken Heart and Direct Persuasion provide safe ways to obtain cards while blocking (Broken Heart will not proc if your HP is greater than the opponents but if it is, then you can afford taking risks by focusing). The idea is to allow the opponent to have 3 cards in-order to trigger the effects of Rompez Fleuret, and Slashing Vine. When the effects of these cards are active, your strike
will be very powerful. Peacock Waltz's ability should always be active and provides a very strong buff that cannot be blocked without the assistance of a parry card. Don't be afraid to use Monte Carlo Snap to strike, many players assume that Lili players will use Monte Carlo Snap as a source of healing but remember that over healing will stop the effects of Broken Heart which is key to pushing an smart opponent's cards past 2. I would love to make a flowchart for this, except that I think it would be a lot more complicated than previous ones. All I can say is, know when to play aggressively and when to play defensively. Although this statement may seem very simple, many players cannot differentiate when those times are, I will try to make a post regarding that in the near future.

Very important: don't fire off Elysee Le Bras Allonge as soon as you get it. This card can be used to get more damage, or heal up using Monte Carlo Snaps. Consider playing focus or even block, I am sure the opponent will either play Block or Strike anyway.

Conclusion

I am not a Lili player and I don't intend to ever play Lili however, I do think this type of deck is very strong and not many decks can keep up with it in terms of Healing and Damage. With the change in the 5 card discard rule and HP per turn card nerfs, this deck only becomes stronger. I am thinking of subbing in a 2x Heliotrope (20 Damage, Punch, After the attack: Block won: 3rd card +30 Hit) but am not sure where to put it. With Heliotrope a general strategy can be seen, lower the enemy's HP to 90~100, focus to 5 cards (hopefully your HP is lower than theirs) allow them to build 3 cards OR win a block (the only way to avoid having 3+ cards is to strike) and strike for the rest of their HP.

Small changes can be made here and there depending on the players you fight (I don't think 1100 players think so deeply about not triggering certain card effects) but the general idea of the deck is the same, 3rd card buff punching deck.

Please leave comments, suggestions or anything. I would love to hear the opinion of Lili players.

16 comments:

  1. Thanks for finally posting a punch deck they introduced the balance Update 4 today and Lili got 3 new punch cards would you still stay with the above deck or replace some cards?

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    1. I just did a review on the new cards, I would take out 1x Broken Heart and 1x Slashing Vine for Shears to Spinning Edge (20 Damage, Kick, After the attack, Focus: -5 cards & +3 cards) and Delicate Uprising (20 Damage, Punch, After the attack, Strike & Head-on: Keep card & 1st card discard)

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  2. Is It a good Idea to give your opponent Free cards? ( broken Heart) I dislike that idea as you don't have any parry cards in that deck.

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  3. 5 of the cards activate when the opponent has 3 or more cards. Broken Heart is one of the only ways to give the opponent cards. The trade off isn't that bad. Currently, Punch Lili is dominating the top player scene.

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  4. This build have to be nerf. Every top player change there deck to get this one, it's ridiculous. The tn is just sick at hight ranking (around 1400) where you fight lili 90% of the time ...

    Hope the next balancing patch will appear soon ...

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    1. Hi Inso,

      The next balance patch is in 2 weeks. I know what you mean about the Lili fights. I think right now, 1250+ is full of One Hit KO Paul, Kazuya and Lili. with Lili on top. The problem is really Elysee Le Bras and Lili cycles through cards potentially as fast as Xiaoyu. With the new card, "Shears to Spinning Edge" cycling through cards is even faster so Elysee Le Bras may even be seen twice!

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    2. I'm a kazuya player, and i only play against Paul and lili(90%) ... I cant disagree :-).

      But i saw many players change their champion(just as chookly did from nina to lili) to take lili. It's just boring and it kill all the fun in my opinion ...

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  5. thank u so much on kaz tips, but now onto lili. i have the exact same deck. i just swapped one broken heart for rafflesia for protection.
    i am NOW thinking that it would "maybe" help the deck, if u swap montecarlo for either on of these:

    tempest
    delicate uprising
    rose pique

    ur thoughts?

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    1. From the original, you could take out 3x Broken Hearts, 1x Monte Carlo Snap, put in 1x Direct Persuasion, 1x Shears to Spinning Edge OR Rafflsia OR Delicate Uprising, 2x Rose Pique. I am looking at Tempest Right now, it seems like a mediocre card.

      A lot of 1300+ players are using a deck similar to the one I just stated. I am almost 100% sure that Lili will get a nerf in the next balance update so don't get your hopes up. lol

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  6. What do you think about Lili decks after the balance update?

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    1. Still #1. Not much was changed to Lili from the balance update, she can still dish out insane amounts of damage, has a strong heal, and extremely fast draw speed.

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  7. Could you please update this Lili deck or create a new one? A lot of things changed since you made this deck:

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    1. Sorry Sincerity,

      I will post a deck used by one of the top Lili players that I came across in the final hours of last weeks tournament.

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  8. Okay, I supose this site Is dead because you stopped writing new posts. Its sad but thanks for contributing your decks to the community.

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  9. Are you stil actively playing TCT? Can you introduce an updated lili punch cards deck?

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